But why the hell does the NHS have separate cancer wards for men and women in the first place?? Do we have that here in the US? I'm pretty sure our hospitals are coed? It would make sense to segregate multi-person rooms, since you're walking to the bathroom with your but hanging out. Speaking of, why do we have gowns that are open in the back? I get why they need to open quickly for medical emergencies, but surely a gown can be designed so it opens fast but doesn't flap around. Hasn't anyone heard of snaps in the front? Why is any of this like this in the first place??
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And people are like "well if men and women are sleeping on the same floor, the men might get rapey!" Well about that, why do we let men get rapey?? We don't have guards standing over people's jello in the hospital to make sure no one steals it. Why not? Because if someone screams "he took my jello!" someone would try to stop that. He'd be punished and everyone would be mad at him. Why not have a "rapey ward" where we put all the people known to be rapey? And let all the people who know how to not rape share a ward regardless of gender?
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Like, it occurs to me that the assumption that men will get rapey is deeply misandrist. "Well if you let men into women's locker rooms they'll get handsy!" wtf is that horrible stereotype all about?? Men are letting some smaller percentage define this terrible traits against the whole gender! Such that women are afraid to sleep in the same hospital ward? How is that ok?? Maybe it's rapey people we should be segregating off!
Like, I have only recently and partially joined the ranks of manhood, and I gotta say guys, this is some sorry state you've left this place in. Clean up! The women think we're monsters!!
It's absolutely bonkers! Underlying all this trans panic is the assumption that any random group of men will get rapey. That we've got to keep all men away from women or women are going to get hurt. Where is the manosphere on that?? You're outraged over "she would pick the bear" yet are ok that she doesn't feel safe with you in a public bathroom. Where is your outrage over men who make men look bad?? Is that why you fear trans women? Because the discussion reveals the true issues about women's safety??? Because it points the arrow at who is allowing what and how ridiculous that is?? Cis men, do you LIKE the stereotype that you're rapey????????
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Cis men, do you LIKE the stereotype that you're rapey????????
Because, having lived life as a woman, I can tell you how much energy I put into avoiding being perceived with negative woman stereotypes.
Does he think I'm stupid? Does that small mistakes make me look like a bad driver? If I don't phrase this just right, will he think I don't know what I'm talking about? Don't ever change your mind, that's a thing stereotypical women do. Am I using this tool incorrectly and will someone mock me if they notice? I will lift that heavy thing no matter what so they know I'm just as strong. I will endure this pain without complaint so they know I can take it. I will keep my emotions calm and measured so they don't think I'm just a hysterical woman.
I AVOID these stereotypes. I feel it incumbent upon me as a woman to disprove these stereotypes! We all do. Feminists do. To the point of being unhealthy. In fact, I'm remembering a blog post I wrote (I may link it later) during one of the Twitter dramas way back, over whether it was ok for a female gamer to openly enjoy picking the healer role ona raid because that reinforces the stereotype.
Men's rights activists, where the hell are you on this? It seems as if you LIKE having the stereotype of being rapey. What is this???
@noodlemaz Yeah, I was upset and failed to properly set up the thread. MRAs are misogynists. I was trying to show a not toxic way for men to make their and everyone else's lives better.
@corbden Yeah… you fucking trolled on purpose. You literally just trolled women in your feed on purpose for the reaction.
Insane behavior.
@ErickaSimone I mean, I didn't. I was and still an genuinely mad about the news story. Which is why I was reactive and didn't properly build up to the point so it made sense and instead started in the middle where it landed really badly.
I'm conflict avoidant and don't post politically much anymore to avoid conflict and avoid hurting anyone. I am really sorry I didn't think it through.
@corbden STOP FUCKING TALKING. STOP EXPLAINING. YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN THIS AWAY. DELETE THE FUCKING POST. YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKING RAPIST. OR WHITE PEOPLE WHO DEMAND ACCESS TO BLACK SPACES KNOWING YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE. COLONIZING AND DELUSIONAL. DELETE THE FUCKING POST OR I WILL OUTRIGHT BLOCK LIST YOU FOR THIS SHIT.
STOP FUCKING TYPING AND DELETE. NOT TRIGGER WARNING. DELETE. NOW.
@corbden yes, you fucking dunce. They do. They love it. Why are you acting weird about this. Why is this fucking rant still up.
@corbden it’s not “think” bro. The stats are what they are. You have to realize this. Men ARE monsters. There is no such thing as misandry. Rape, femicide and sexual assault happen every second of every day, and it’s a man doing it.
I don’t mean to be mean, but I’m going to be very frank. You’re way off with this. Almost disrespectful. If you let men into women’s locker rooms, he WILL harm a woman. Period. Only a matter of time. There is no misandry. Just statistical fact.
@corbden I wrote this a long time ago
It still comes up all the time.
Apols for any broken images
https://noodlemaz.wordpress.com/2018/12/19/misandry-fantasy/
@corbden yeah. Ima need you to delete this whole thread. It reeks of delusional male privilege and I need you to stop. Right now. This is fucking offensive.
If women do not want to share space with men because of men’s documented rapey behavior, what you’re not gonna do is continue to question, coerce and force your way into said space. Clearly they have it separated for a reason, and that reason is probably because men are rapists.
Delete this shit. It is disturbing.
@ErickaSimone I'm AFAB genderfluid and lived most of my life as a woman until recently. That's where I'm coming from, that men need to be different. That Ken need to fight their stereotypes by being better people.
This is a nota conversation about poor men being picked in by feminists. This is a feminist conversation about punching holes through the assumptions we all hold that keep things the way they are. I feel I have a right to hold it as a DV survivor and multiple-rape survivor while living as a woman. I kind of went off in this rant unplanned while deep in thought about a trans woman who died because they wouldn't put her in the women's OR men's ward.
But maybe I could preface it better. The context of my past gender experiences does matter and not everyone gets that from my profile. (The woes of being nonbinary.)
@corbden I don’t care. Do not pull in. Your gender politics now. You said nothing about trans vs cis men. That is another discussion. You asked why MEN, no marker distinction, are not allowed in women’s ONCOLOGY SPACES for the love of GOD. Are you fucking okay? Do you not know how cis men will stick their dicks in anything? Do you not know the rate of femicide in America right now?
Delete the thread. You are being offensive and tone deaf as shit. It’s not really up for discussion.