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Elena Rossini 🌈 @_elena@mastodon.social

The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

What am I talking about? This ICYMI: 404media.co/manifestos-fear-an

#NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

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ティージェーグレェ @teajaygrey@snac.bsd.cafe
I am, almost surprised to read that you, on your self hosting journey, were not also self hosting email!

Then again, I probably began on the self hosting journey so long ago that it was more of a collaborative hosting (because computer resources were scarce and expensive and so BBSes and such were doing out best to share them with others) era (my first Internet accessible email address was UUCP, not SMTP; and I had other email systems in use before that too!)? So the bygone days of when sendmail had "wiz" and spam was not yet a reality? I miss.

At some point, I had been getting paid to run mailservers for employers for so long, I had more or less given up on it for personal use and let others with their free tiers handle that sort of thing.

Distressingly, it seems as if the free tiers of companies, can no longer be trusted as most have fallen prey to the realms of surveillance capitalism, so I too am in the process of going back to some sort of self hosted paradigm, for email of all things!?

I should have hoped by 2026, we would have all long since migrated to realtime end-to-end encrypted communications systems with Perfect Forward Secrecy and naturally, libre/free open source software implementations such as SILC; yet it seems as if the popularity of that fell by the wayside as the hegemonic powers that be foisted their bassackwardsness on the world? I know better is possible, since I already was using better contentedly, long ago.

These days? The "S" in SMTP, no longer seems meaningful; such a pity.

I am certain that you can take your self hosting lessons to the realms of email and be OK with it. Administering MTAs (Mail Transfer Agents) isn't the worst thing in the world; personally I prefer Postfix to sendmail; yet qmail presumably still functions? There are also OpenSMTPD from the OpenBSD developers now, and newer "gee-whiz" sorts of all-in-one thingamajiggers e.g. https://www.xmox.nl and https://stalw.art (the latter of which I am least familiar with and also seems to perhaps utilize LLMs to some degree?) which maybe also include calendaring and IMAP, etc. support?

Good luck on your continuing journey! Even as I, probably need to go back to some areas with which I was once all too well versed and apparently have let lapse in the intermediary years hoping that we may have moved on from such things, like the joke:

"Could you fax over a copy?"
"No, I can't fax because of where I live."
"Where do you live?"
"The 21st century."

To me at least? A good new technology, does not cling to the past.

So, any "web" service, still requesting an email address? IMHO, is not a good one.

SILC, did not require an email address.

Contrast with, e.g. Signal, which requires a phone number?

Even worse. At least email addresses (e.g. SMTP) have a multiplicity of libre/free open source implementations and that will presumably, always be true. Attempting to get phone numbers (sure there are projects such as OpenBTS, Asterisk, which provide VoIP functionality, yet they are the minority; the telephony realms are predominantly still promulgated by an entrenched, convicted monopoly). Based on that alone Signal use should be discouraged. Alas, there are many other good reasons to discourage usage of Signal.
Mox: modern, secure, all-in-one mail server

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Elena Rossini 🌈 @_elena@mastodon.social

@teajaygrey I have read so many accounts of people struggling with self-hosting email - I think they compared this to a drug cartel - that I prefer to rely on paid email services and not have to worry about deliverability, server management, etc.

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ティージェーグレェ @teajaygrey@snac.bsd.cafe
I have faith in you! Admittedly, I know you already are doing a lot too. If and when you embark on that journey? My guess is: you will share your experiences, and others will learn a lot in the process and maybe I am overly optimistic? I suspect that it may inspire more to free themselves from the paid providers too.

No rush though; as I wrote previously; I am not presently being paid to administer others' systems and I don't have any gear racked anywhere of my own as well. Just because I have done such things in the past, doesn't mean that I am claiming it is easy for others or even myself at the present moment. I know it can be done, having done so repeatedly, and am confident that it is not beyond your, nor many others' skills.

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Elena Rossini 🌈 @_elena@mastodon.social

@teajaygrey infinite respect for people who self-host their own email but I have zero interest in doing that. I'd rather associate my custom domain to a secure, encrypted email service and not worry about anything.

I self-host a lot of things but for example I decided to use #MagicPages for my Ghost blog and I am so grateful for Jannis' work. I don't have to stress about maintenance etc.

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